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  Shunning Styles 101. Any I missed? Care to elaborate?

  by Open mind in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my oldest brother got baptized at 12 and realized he was 100% gay at 12 1/2.

  sucky timing huh?

  he fought the fine fight of the abstinent until his mid-twenties and then decided he couldn't live like that anymore.

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  One horrid outcome of shunning happened within family that I was close to. A sister suffered from a severe mental illness. She would hallucinate and do things in a fugue state that ended up getting her df'd. She had 5 grown brothers and sisters, as well as her parents that should have been looking after her, but because she was df'd, she had no one.

  SShe had an episode and ended up jumping through a plate glass window and fell 3 stories. As a result she ended up paralyzed and on life support. Her family only came to the hospital when the medical staff called them when decisions needed to be made. They only spoke to her right before she died. The family never told any of the "friends" what was happening to her. I can't begin to imagine how alone and frightened this young girl must have been. Such a "loving provision".
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  Trying to live the rest of my life without being bitter.

  by Bigdummy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm new to this forum.. i was raised in " the truth" from age six and now i am in my mid 60's.

  my wife was born in " the truth" and is very strong in the religion.

  i have had many experiences during my lifetime with the other members of several congregations.

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  Hi Big D...welcome. Looking forward to learning more of your story.
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  All Gays Are Perverts

  by Coded Logic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "scientists may never resolve exactly how much of a role nature and nurturing play in same-sex attraction.

  but one thing is clear: all humans are born with the tendency to succumb to wrong thinking and inclinations.

  --romans 3:23. a youth who desires to please god must therefore conform to his moral standards and shun immoral behavior, though doing so may be agonizingly difficult.

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  What Finkelstein said...

  In my mind...child sexual abuse is the same thing as rape! It comes from the same place...rage and control!
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  How to raise awareness about child abuse.

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  here's an idea.

  we know the wtbts fears exposure more than anything.

  so what if we made an organized, concerted effort to contact every celebrity jw that we can think of?

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  I just sent an email to Carol Swain at Vanderbilt University...I'll update any reply I get.
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  How to raise awareness about child abuse.

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  here's an idea.

  we know the wtbts fears exposure more than anything.

  so what if we made an organized, concerted effort to contact every celebrity jw that we can think of?

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  Gone and forgotten

  I found a list of even more...http://wiki.jw-archive.org/+Celebrity+Jehovah's+Witnesses+-+Famous+or+Infamous%3F+You+decide. The list of ex JW's is at the bottom of the page.

  I think this is a really cool idea, it would be nice if we could get some of them to speak out.

  Sorry...looks like I got the same one as DOT...
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  All Gays Are Perverts

  by Coded Logic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "scientists may never resolve exactly how much of a role nature and nurturing play in same-sex attraction.

  but one thing is clear: all humans are born with the tendency to succumb to wrong thinking and inclinations.

  --romans 3:23. a youth who desires to please god must therefore conform to his moral standards and shun immoral behavior, though doing so may be agonizingly difficult.

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  This issue was always one of my cognitive dissonance triggers...pre JW, I had lots of gay friends that I loved dearly. So this issue always grated on my nerves. But being the good little JW, I just shut my mouth and tamped it down. But as I started working full time, and became a manager in a phone room, I came into close contact with people of all orientations. As part of my job, there could be no appearance of discrimination or bigotry...this was so freeing for me. I was finally able to "associate" freely with anyone I wanted to. I didn't do so outside of work...of course, but this actually may have been part of what started to cause my dissatisfaction with the whole lifestyle. It was also the cause of many disagreements between my ex and myself (I honestly think he's in the closet, even to himself.) Homosexuality was the one issue that he was completely violently opposed to...even after he was DF'd for being a drunkard and being with prostitutes...hypocrite...anyway...

  In the OP the quote... "Child molesters invoke the same pathetic excuse when they say their craving for children is "innate." But can anyone deny that their sexual appetite is perverted? So is the desire for someone of the same sex." How quickly will they DF's someone for being gay, yet protect the real perverts...sick!
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  Richard White, machette attacker in New Orleans airport a JW dies. Another medicine denier.

  by Wasanelder Once in

  1. social
  2. current

  richard white was mentally unstable.

  apparently he went off the rails and attacked the tsa at the n. orleans airport.

  they shot him to stop him chasing down people trying to hack them with his machete.

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  Other than Blood, I have never known a JW to refuse medical treatment. I was in for 20+ years and have had lots of medical issues and was never encouraged to deny treatment, except blood. When my father was sick (not a JW) and I was his POA, he needed a transfusion. The elders told me that it was my responsibility to ensure that HIS wishes were observed, not MY beliefs.

  So I have to conclude that this individual was delusional. His refusal to take his meds was on him, not the WTS.
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  Do you want to take action to support mandatory child abuse reporting? (UK or US mainly)

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this quote is just for discussion purposes, not my political bias or anything... .

  " a 'revolution in attitudes' is needed to safeguard children from sex abusers, according to the shadow home secretary, yvette cooper.in an interview with the independent on sunday, ms cooper said that the problem was wider than the historic cases uncovered through the jimmy savile scandal and the abuse of hundreds of children in rotherham.she said that childrens voices must be heard by organisations which had failed to act in the past, and pledged that a labour government would make the reporting of abuse a legal requirement... we need to introduce mandatory reporting so that no institution can ever be tempted to think that the reputation of the institution matters more than the protection of the child ... there has to be a stronger obligation to report and to act.labour has included mandatory reporting in the partys pre-election manifesto and has also said it will set up a cross-whitehall unit to tackle child protection.

  "http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/child-sex-abuse-shadow-home-secretary-calls-for-revolution-in-attitudes-to-safeguard-vulnerable-10077725.html.

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  Signed this one since it is the only one for the US. I also sent a FB request to my friends to also sign.

  https://www.causes.com/actions/1767188-sign-the-petition-to-president-barack-obama-us-attorney-general-eric-holder-and-attorney-general-mary-lou-leary-department-of-juvenile
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  Wife fully awake.

  by cappytan in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i learned this past week that my wife is now awake.

  i just shared the pbs newshour segment with her with no comment other than something along the lines of, "jw story on pbs.".

  she is furious at the arrogance of these men.. thats what happens when you get a momma angry!.

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  Congratulations! So happy for you. Tell her we can't wait to meet her!
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  Hello All!

  by ihunt in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i figure it's about time that i stop silently lurking around this community and actually add to the conversation, so here goes a first post.

  a little about me-i was born "half-in", that is, my mother has been a witness for the entirety of my life whereas my father has never been.

  i was an active part of the congregation (at least for what an unbaptized publisher can do) until i turned 18 and got an opportunity to attend a university (go school!).

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  Gone and forgotten

  Welcome!